Sunday, February 15, 2009

Trading Principles - 3

In my previous post (Trading Principles - 2), we discussed two concepts:
(1.) Chance of winning
(2.) Risk:Reward

OK, lets move ahead.

Sometime last year, a friend asked me what I thought about the market direction. I replied that I thought markets would go up in the near term. So he further asked me whether I had bought in anticipation of this move (being long, in trader terminology). I replied in the negative saying that I was actually short on the markets.

My friend appeared puzzled, perhaps he thought I was being a 'wise guy'. In reality, I was being totally honest. But what explained the discrepancy between my views and my action?

Lets say you toss a fair coin. If you get a heads, you get paid Rs. 2. If you get a tails, you lose Re 1. Would you play this game of chance?

For a fair coin, there is a 50% chance of getting either heads or tails.
So if play this coin toss game 100 times, you can expect 50 heads and 50 tails.
For each head, you win Rs. 2. So for 50 heads you will win Rs. 100
For each tail, you lose Re. 1. So for 50 tails, you will lose Rs. 50.
After 100 tosses of this fair coin, you will win Rs 100 and lose Rs 50 for a net gain of Rs 50.
So if you play this game 100 times, you can expect to win Rs. 50.
Hence, the EXPECTED VALUE of the gain from a single toss of the coin is Rs 50 divided by 100 = Rs. 0.5.

You can expect to win 50 paisa for every toss of the coin. This is called the EXPECTED VALUE (E) per toss of the coin toss game. Surely, you would like to play this game, as many times as possible. The more you play, the more money you can make.

Likewise, each investment/trade has an expected value. If the expected value is positive, a profit is expected on the trade and it is worth taking. If the expected value is negative, a loss is expected on the trade and the trade is not worth taking.

Let us take a couple of examples.

Trade A has a 70% chance of winning and a 30% chance of losing. The win per trade is Rs 100 but the loss per trade is 400.
The expected value (E) for this trade is (0.7)*(100)+(0.3)*(-400) = -50
Trade A has a negative E value. i.e. this trade is expected to lose you money even though it has a 70% chance of success. Thus a high chance of success does not equate with making money.

Conversely turn the above trade on its head. Take trade B that has a 30% chance of winning Rs 400 and a 70% chance of losing Rs 100.
E for this trade is +50.
So even with a low chance of winning, the trade makes you money.

Perhaps now it might make sense why I was short on the markets in spite of thinking that the markets would go up. I was expecting that if the markets went up, they would not go up much. But they went down, they would go down a lot. The Expected Value favoured a short position.

It does not matter much, if over the long run, you are more wrong than right (% success rate) or vice versa. What matters is how much you make when you are right and how much you lose when you are wrong (a high average profit:average loss ratio).

So how do we use this to make real life decisions? Suppose you have a one year time horizon. At the end of 1 year, you expect the Sensex to have a 50% chance of going up by 30%. But there is a 50% chance of it going down by 20% as well. Should you buy?

The expected value from this trade is 0.5*30%-0.5*20% = 5%

This is positive. So should you buy since E has a positive value?

Do not forget the opportunity cost. You could put your money into a bank fixed deposit and get an assured 8% (assuming the bank does not default). So in actual terms, the opportunity cost for making the Sensex trade is higher than the expected benefit from this trade.

An investment must then must not only have a positive expected value but it must be higher than the best opportunity cost. Clearly, it does not make economic sense to buy into the Sensex with these kind of statistics.

What if your time horizon is 5 years?

Say, over 5 years, there is a 90% chance of the Sensex doubling in value. But there is a 10% chance of the Sensex going nowhere. The E for this trade is 90. The opportunity cost @8% per annum is 47. So over a longer duration, the trade makes sense.

(Hence the importance of a personal time horizon for any investment.)

So what lessons can we derive from the above discussion?
(1). More important than % success rate is the reward:risk relationship. It is easier to find investments and trades that have a low success rate than one that has a high success rate, provided you obey point no. 2 below, which is
(2). Let your profits run but cut your losses short. Look at trade B above. Many investors do the converse. They sell quickly when they have a profit, lest the profit should evaporate. But they hang on to losing investments in the hope that prices will come back. In effect they follow the strategy, 'cut your profits short but let your losses run'. Typical phenomenon are short term trades becoming long term investments, Buy-and-hope investing, not willing to accept a loss, etc. All lead to the poor house!
(3). Seek and act on only those investments that have a positive E value. Finding such trades requires possessing an edge in the markets. An edge comes from experience, vision and ability to foresee, access to information, plan and discipline, patience, perseverance, or all of the above, and more.

Till next time, happy investing!

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

I recently visited your blogspot. It is very good. May I Request you to share your mechanical trading system pls.

Regards

Veer

nveerappan@yahoo.com

Manish Chauhan said...

Excellent articles ... Very nicely written ...

Keep up the good work ..

Can you share some thing on psychological issues involved with "let your profits run" rule ... I am able to cut my losses short now , but having hard time in letting profits run .

Manish

Shashank Jogi said...

Manish,

Thank you for the kind words. I am glad you like my articles. Thank you for your encouragement as well.

You hear wise-sounding statements like, "you cant go broke by taking a profit", or "never let a profit turn into a loss." or "You have made good money. Encash it!". Most people will book small profits, sometimes as soon as they have such profits. In my opinion, you should exit a trade if the trade has run its course and the reasons for buying no longer holds good. As long as the market proves you right, why exit?

Why can't people let profits run as much as they can? There are many psychological issues wrt not letting your profits run. Here are a few:

(1). Fear of giving back profits:
For most people, giving back profits when they have them is very painful. Markets fluctuate and a profit can turn into losses. Once this happens to us, we regret not having sold earlier. So the next time we see a profit, we fear that this time around too profits might turn around and maybe we might end up with losses. Hence we act out of emotion and book the profit. Having done so, we feel relieved about the release in tension as about making some money as well. All the above reflects either a lack of a plan or lack of discipline or both. If you can focus on the process of trading without regard to the outcome, you can resist booking out too early. Accept that losses are going to happen and they are simply the cost of doing trading business. Avoid emotional attachment with money. Difficult, I know, but possible. Remember that the purpose of trading and investing is not to make money, but to trade well.

(2.) Desire to be right.
Our schooling and societal conditioning means that we regard being right as superior to being wrong. 90% marks is better than 80%. Doctors better be right all the time. Airplanes better not crash, even if the frequency is once in a million or lower. While this is fine for the world, in investing/trading this is not necessarily true. When we have a profit, however small it might be, and we book it, we are proven right. We react to our conditioning of wanting to be right (and hence smart). Now we look good in our own eyes, happy with our 10% profit, only to see the stock go up 10 times.

(3). Confusing activity with productivity.
If you are doing nothing or have done nothing for a week at work, would you feel guilty of goofing off? While a few might want to goof off altogether, most of us want to have something to do, want some activity at work or in life.

In investing, activity is not equal to productivity. Traders think that if they are buying and selling, they are being productive. Maybe, they think that after booking a (small) profit, they can buy something else which would go up fast enough. Or maybe they can wait for a correction to buy again. Doing nothing is not an option. So they buy, book small profit (but dont book small loss) and buy again hoping for another small profit to book...and so on. The one day, when the market crashes, they have many small profits to show but a few large losses that wipes out all the small profits, and more...

One of the best things you can do is to sit tight on your back side as long as your position keeps making you money. Just sit there, so nothing. Sitting tight in the markets is a difficult thing to do. The constant action entices you to do something, anything.

One way out is to avoid looking at prices too frequently. There are many better things in life than stare at fluctuating prices on a trading terminal. Maybe check prices just once a day towards the end of the day.


See if you have any of the above.

Manish Chauhan said...

Thanks Shashikant

Truly speaking , from last 1 year of of trading experience and by reading lot of books, i have understood the point you mentioned above .. but having hard time to actually do it !! .

Anyways , your words again reminded me what to do and may be in a better way :)

Recently I bought ICICI and JAIASS calls some days back and also made profits on them ... i made good entry with technical analysis and also had proper position sizing , but lot of market volatility tested my patience and forced me to exit :) , only to see them make 20 times more money than what i made in that trade :)

Anyways ... Let me try to practice of sitting tight with trade woth logical stops :)

btw , i have found your articles are very nicely written and it shows how clear are your thoughts on investing .

I also write on personal finance , mainly on Insurance , Investing etc .

Manish
http://www.jagoinvestor.com

Shashank Jogi said...

Hello Veer.

There are thousands of ways of making money in the markets. Whether any one of them can make you money will depend upon whether it is suitable for you in terms of your personality, your beliefs about the markets and yourself, return requirements and risk bearing capability, successive losses you can accept without throwing in the towel, equity swings and drawdowns you can handle, the amount of capital you have, etc.

What is suitable for me might not be suitable for you and vice versa.

People make this mistake of thinking that it they have a method, any method, to trade/invest, they would be able to make a lot of money. Nothing can be farther from the truth. CNBC and such channels advance this misconception by discussing 'strategy for today' or 'what should traders do now?'

In any case, a method is only 10% responsible for trading success. If you a follower of popular media channels such as CNBC, you might be inclined to believe in all the wrong things about investing...like concepts such a 'picking the right stock is key to investing', or 'asset allocation is so important', etc. With experience, we realise that method is not all that important and stock picking is even less important.

You can make money, a lot of it, by flipping a coin, provided you do some other things right...like letting profits run but cutting losses short (intelligent exits) or buying in the right size (proper position sizing).

But since you have asked for a mechanical trading system, I would not like to disappoint you. Here is one, though I do not use it, but is back tested for validity and for statistical significance using 18 years data:

Trade the Nifty.
Buy on the day at day's close on the day the Nifty closes above its 100 day simple moving average. Sell when it closes below (opposite of the buying approach). This is the most simple form of trend following, but simple things do work.

You can make a lot of money using this or you can even manage to lose money. You need to have discipline in executing the trades regardless of what others think about market direction or how fearful or greedy you feel. You need to know when to buy a lot and when to buy a little. You need to manage your risk by risking enough money for profits to be significant but not risk too much that a few large losses smash your capital.

Hope this helps.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for enlighting and sharing.

Regards,

Veer

Manish Chauhan said...

Thanks Shashank !!

Manish
http://www.jagoinvestor.com